KC ([info]kc_anathema) wrote,
@ 2008-01-13 02:37:00
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California wants to control home thermostats
Next year in California, state regulators are likely to have the emergency power to control individual thermostats, sending temperatures up or down through a radio-controlled device that will be required in new or substantially modified houses and buildings to manage electricity shortages.

The proposed rules are contained in a document circulated by the California Energy Commission, which for more than three decades has set state energy efficiency standards for home appliances, like water heaters, air conditioners and refrigerators.

The changes would allow utilities to adjust customers' preset temperatures when the price of electricity is soaring. Customers could override the utilities' suggested temperatures. But in emergencies, the utilities could override customers' wishes.

Final approval is expected next month.

Somsel, in an interview on Thursday, said he had done further research and was concerned that the radio signal - or the Internet instructions that would be sent, in an emergency, from utilities' central control stations to the broadcasters sending the FM signal - could be hacked into. That is not possible, said Nicole Tam, a spokeswoman for PG&E who works with the pilot program in Stockton. Radio pages "are encrypted and encoded," Tam said.

Hands up, everyone who believes her. I wonder what the first 14 year old hacker will do with the system, make every home a Sahara or the Arctic, until the system collapses under itself.


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[info]jordan179
2008-01-13 10:13 am UTC (link)
This is an astonishingly stupid plan, which does absolutely nothing useful save make California more vulnerable to cyber-attacks. And it's a radio signal, too! I wonder what happens when the first good solar storm hits?

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[info]kc_anathema
2008-01-13 10:35 am UTC (link)
Maybe they'll flash freeze, and then the corpses will cook like two minutes later as the temperatures swing wildly.

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[info]jordan179
2008-01-13 11:36 am UTC (link)
Mind you, there are ways in which you could design a radio-controlled system so that it would at least stay on the last setting in a solar storm. Of course, that raises the possibility of the system getting stuck in an extreme mode due to such a storm, and the weather then severely changing.

This becomes extremely likely when one considers that another effect of solar flares is to mess with Earthly weather patterns. Thus, the combination of a solar storm and wild weather changes on Earth are actually not all that improbable.

In general, this system sounds like a reason why people would start moving out of the state. Another very strong possibility is that people will respond to this by installing their own A/C's and heaters, and running them in adddition to the central unit, thus causing a truly monstrous waste of electricity.

What kind of idiot came up with this idea, and how did they fail to consider how people would try to get around it?

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[info]rae_1985
2008-01-13 02:17 pm UTC (link)
It's not hard to fake out the thermostat. All you have to do is put in ice pack or hot pack on the thing. It thinks the rooms is colder/warmer than it is, and kicks on the heat or air conditioning. Controlling it off site seems dumb, and anyone with a brain will be able to do what they want.

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[info]felinoid
2008-01-14 01:00 am UTC (link)
13 year old.

Jiexi, Already knows how to build computers and has played video games (FPS) for quite some time.

He lives in California. I've been teaching him everything I know.
At this point he could hack the phone system IF he wanted. (He has Skype so no point).

He'll turn it off then crash the controllers do nobody can turn them back on.

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[info]kitty11chan
2008-01-15 03:27 am UTC (link)
Damn straight. Just be careful, my favorite aunt lives in Santa Barbara & I don't want her hurt. Everyone else can cook.

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[info]kitty11chan
2008-01-15 03:27 am UTC (link)
I give it less than ten seconds after the system comes online for it to be hacked.

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